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effective transitions. From this, we   we encourage people to learn       about their place in the world can
        can then follow through to identify   about themselves and the world      provide a space within which we
        the impacts on the education and     around them and to use this learn-   can raise some political issues. I
        employment system, but also a        ing to inform their career develop-  think that we should be comfort-
        range of secondary impacts on        ment, we are encouraging people      able talking to people about their
        things like people’s health, their   to think about who they are, what    values, about the tensions that
        likelihood of committing crimes and  they want to contribute and how      they perceive between their career
        a wide range of other social bene-   they can be happy and maximise       aspirations and an unfair world. I
        fits.                                their wellbeing.                     think that we also need to be more
                                                                                  comfortable about suggesting
        The evidence base that we have       The problem is that when you start   collective solutions to the career
        drawn on for this paper is inter-    to think about career guidance in    problems that they perceive along-
        national and I think that we can     these terms it starts to very quickly   side more individual solutions.
        be reasonably certain that guid-     become clear that everyone does      So if someone wants to increase
        ance has the potential to make an    not have the same opportunity to     their wages we should be talking
        economic contribution wherever it    access the ‘good life’. Depending    about collective bargaining through
        exists.                              on the country you are born in,      a trade union as well as about
                                             your race, class and gender, you     personal advancement through
        In your lecture “Emancipate          are likely to experience different   promotion or a new job.
        yourselves from mental slavery:      barriers in achieving your potential.
        self-actualisation, social justice and  What I’ve been starting to think   Some of this is fairly new for career
        the politics of career guidance” you  and talk about is the idea that ca-  guidance professionals, but I think
        mentioned that our careers should    reer guidance might have a role in   that it is an area that we need to
        be characterised by autonomy, op-    starting to actually challenge those   all work on together. We need to
        timism and fulfilment and also that   barriers.                           rework our models of practice to
        more people should have the op-                                           address the current global context
        portunity to self-actualise and have  So the question is can career guid-  and to help us to play a part in
        a better career whilst recognising   ance actually do something other     bringing about a new and better
        that in order to achieve this we are   than just help people to cope with   world.
        going to need to change the way      an unfair world? Can career guid-
        in which we organise society. How    ance actually contribute to bringing  You are the Head of the Interna-
        can career guidance support this?    about a new and better world?        tional Centre for Guidance Studies
                                                                                  at the University of Derby, you are
        I tried to make the argument that    I think that it can. I think that the   university teacher, you are also
        career guidance was essential        conversations that we have with      a researcher and also involved
        about providing people with the      people during career guidance,       also in the Erasmus+ project
        opportunity to self-actualise. When   which encourage them to think       L.E.A.D.E.R., part of which is





























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